Random Reflexions

"moderate mullahs" huh..niice

Yeah Dr. Freex,

Nice eh? So you gonna come back and write a longer, more intellectually emotional reply?

this is what happens when your religion has an unhealthy obesession with sex. what next? gouging out our eyes and puncturing our ear-drums? ritual castration? cementing vaginas? for the love of Athe, somebody stop these loons. i swear i wouldnt give a rats tail about these 22 apes with overgrown facial hair and their petty declarations if there werent other such brainless apes listening to them and ready to kill for the fantasies they believe in. not that we already didnt suspect, but it seems that Moses was high when he was 'talkiing' to God on mt. sinai and when he 'saw' the burning bush. so judaism and its offshoots were inspired by an acid trip. howz that O theists? i am so sorry to devastate your worldview and devoid your life of meaning that i have to laugh to keep from crying. so all your little youtube videos and anti-music fatwas are just like a Beatles fan getting emotional about Lucy in the sky with diamonds.

looks lik i'm not the only one hu's high eh

there, there...i do understand why yu goin bak n forth between laughin n cryin...es all very confusing i kno hehe...not all of us "get it"

b/w thrz a difference between "seems" and "unequivocal proof" u knw. but u can hardly blame the pundits of atheism for being biased towards any claims that cud indicate the fallacy of the claims of theology. of cos they wish moses was high and that all this is jus BS, and that we cud all go bak to a meanigless existance to shag n fok n squander to our hearts content.(hey u liv only once rite! so liv to the fullest rite)

man's failure is part of wot makes him Man; therefore he will kill irrespective of the social class or cultural niche or the theological cubicle he falls to. the argument of ethical secularism and fundamental theology is nearly same in that Man must not harm,kill unless just cause exists;therefore those who abuse their free will are not a reflection of either ideology one might argue- be it a moslem or a "nothing"..u wit me?

n these bearded apes are obsessed wit sex becos Man is obsessed wit it- lechery is all wot wr about...listen to Lennon mann

som music being bad n som gud, u argue that it is subjective...i say any individual act which has an impact on society at large, shud be judged on its merits, its potential for a greater harm or good...this is why restraints need to be imposed on our actions..short of cementing vaginas ofcos(lol)....Music per se maybe just an innocent auditory hallucinogen fr many, but then it wud be naive to imagine the wider implications of the culture of music in general- moral decadence, lechery, drugs, an apathetic youth who choose to dilly dally their life on a hammock all day long drowning on simon n Garfunkel's fantastical musings of wot life shud be about- stripping a people of their vigor n vitality.......the effects of music(on a definition that encompasses MORE than jus listening to a song on an ipod) needs to be debated, n i don mean on theistic grounds only....as a social debate if not on anything else...

simon, u realli need to be more mature and responsible while disseminating ur random reflections to the rest...
u kno wot they say right- dont get too close to the tree lest u lose sight of the forest! we all kno u hate mullahs n religion in general...
this manner of deflecting real issues requiring objective debate, simply becos the mullahs hv taken it on on a more puritanical level, only gives them the opening to impose their views....enuf wit the prejudice mann...u mayb writing all this to vent ur own frustrations in life, ur worldview as u see/percieve it.......but wot u write here is only too easily swallowed by the very same ignorant herd who hv for ages remained petrified on a singular version of the other extreme..u get?

"drfreez" is a byproduct of this irrational rationalization of urs, i beliv

I am not saying anything regarding the stand of Islam on music, but its logical and rational to accept that the One who created you certainly knows what is best for you. You know, every single issue like this boils down to the one question on God. If one does not believe in God, or does not want to believe in God, there is no point in going into discussion with any topic. Simple as that.

So open your eyes, and be realistic!

hehe,

Look, you try too hard to be someone else and it isn't working. Your IP address gives you away everytime. It's really funny...I enjoy watching that. Anyway, back to the point.

You say I need to be more mature and responsible with how I write my posts? You mean, politically correct and easily digestable by people who cannot stomach the truth?

You say objective debate? Dude, give me a break. What exactly makes you think there has to be an objective debate about the freedom to listen to music...about whether or not we should prohibit MUSIC? Seriously, what exactly are you thinking? It baffles me how much rational thinking you're ready to ignore just so you can actually appear to be apologetic to these nutcases! What exactly don't you understand about the issue here?

"..the effects of music needs to be debated..", you say. So all of a sudden just because these mullahs have raised the issue we have to debate the effects of music? Man, do you know what narrow-mindedness is?

We have not had this become an issue, ever! Why should we give these fools the right to bring it to the debate table now? And to think someone like you with obvious intelligence in your graymatter would say such a thing! Should I be surprised?

It doesn't matter to you how down right absurd these claims are as long as you can appease illogical thinking and the fools.

The real issue is music and the fact that a sheikh from the HRCM was there to tell people that music is prohibited. You don't see it because you have turned a blind eye to it - completely ignored. See, you haven't even said anything regarding that. I rest my case, my friend.

and...

Muiz,

If you haven't anything to say regarding this issue then why bother commenting? If you wanted to make a statement then why not do so on your own blog.

The kind of mental juggling you people are capable of completely baffles me.

Music is good for your health too. It relaxes your mind from stress. Gives peace and rest. Tunes running when having sex can put more flavor and excitement to it. Love music. Enjoy it.

Lets stop projecting shall we? I think you are the one trying to be politically expedient. What I say or write is not a reflection of EITHER peoples views- be it atheists or mullahs. I view both as extremists. It should be clear to you that I am not an apologist for EITHER side.
I heckle you as much as I heckle them. Let's not play stupid shall we? I know you know this.

That aside, I'm wandering whether your inability to take in what I write is unintentional or whether it's just another sleazy tactic to dissuade people from what I'm trying to say here. Stop being so presumptuous ok. It is not that easy to put a label on me.
Where have I stated explicitly that I am of the opinion that music should be PROHIBITED?? I'm very careful in what I write.

I think I have said enough on what my PERSONAL stand is as far as Music & Islam is concerned with.
http://www.muizzu.com/2008/03/atheists-are-blind-remarks-professor.html#links

That said, what I am saying is You (with your 'political correctness' and your 'Human rights' cliché) are just as hounded on a monocular worldview of what is or what should be. Whatever you write is rife with a bias that is designed to blind even yourself from sound reasoning. Same reason why you refuse to take in what I try to say.

While your nihilistic hatred of Islamic orthodoxy is justified on many grounds, and which I in fact agree on many levels, this absolutionist rejection of sound philosophy en bloc simply because it is founded of "Mohammedan" ethos is just pusillanimous!
[Understandable in a sense; the idea of having to wake up to a Maldives that reeks of burning ipods/television sets. It is after all a matter of self-preservation, of holding onto a way of life that you took for granted 17years ago eh. Wait a while and that’s not all that’s going to burn. Islamic extremism aside, we are headed for a liberal Hell hole]

You seek to reconcile this malice you have of Islam through a blind endorsement of liberal ideologues, whose philosophy of ethical secularism IN FACT puts to shame Human Dignity and Individual Rights AND even Tolerance, right alongside Taliban & wahhabism.
***This is just not as apparent as a Moslem terrorist who detonates himself*** To understand the nature of the way of this world we live in, the 20th century world into which you were born requires an unbiased outlook that is just as passionate
I DO NOT SPEAK FOR MULLAHS OR FOR YOUR SIDE, because i see much fault and illogic in BOTH. comprende?

Secular institutions have FAILED. While the freedom you seek is provided for without exhaustion, it is this very freedom running amok and unchecked that has been humanities woe since Man first stood erect. Note, I am not seeking to curb civil liberties altogether, but I am seeing the implications of an unhindered 'freedom' as grave. It is what has tuned our way of life to what it is. I for one do not wish to raise my children in Western Europe (and not just for fear of getting kicked out by the barrage of racial slurs and xenophobia first; do you want me to go into the details of the fear mongering and xenophobia evident in their political establishment) no more than I wish to in say, Saudi Arabia.

What is not apparent to many is the economic & social injustice, the cultural terrorism the rest of the world lives on. You sir, are an apologist to liberal ideologues whose actions make a mockery of the very commandments they claim as the best formula for life. The picture perfect glamour and appeal of their way of life as advertised on Hollywood, which you are so eager to embrace; and the social order and harmony of their secular institutions is all a farce that stands up to only the most superficial scrutiny. This requires you having the prowess needed to see beyond the veneer of media hypocrisy (this is the age of misinformation and digital warfare), and the courage to accept wrong- wherever you see it, as Wrong! Understanding the global economic system and the social order (where the few exercise might over the many) that has made this world as inhospitable as the moons of Jupiter to the very great majority in this world, requires seeing that this is an anomaly built into the very fabric of what it is they are proselytising as the ideal for human coexistence.
This is exhaustive, and I cannot tell you everything in one go. Would be great if you would read this as well- http://www.freecongress.org/PC_Essays/C_chapter_two.pdf

Now, having placed Music within this context what I said was that first and foremost Music per say is a very broad term. And to my understanding there exists no basis to collectively label any and all forms of Music as Har'am. I had made that argument to you arch enemies.
BUT what I also said was that I understand the need for wanting to keep the "Culture of Music" in check (just as I understood why you felt you weren't doing any harm by your self indulgence in a bit of Pink Floyd and the like now and then ehhehe; certainly i too have grown to love listening to music, Hell One of my favourite bands in called ‘Lechery’- http://www.lechery.se/).

The problem is both sides tend to take things overboard whenever there is a 'clash of civilizations'.

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This is an understandable psychology when one considers the centuries of hatred and misconception that has existed on either side, more so on the "infidel" side. The reasons for this are *systemic* and on some level ignorance as well. One has only to see the manner in which the west has persistently endeavoured to under-rate the achievements of Islam, particularly on the scientific field.

Writing in his outspoken book ‘The Intellectual Development of Europe', John William Draper, says, “ I have to deplore the systemic manner in which the literature of Europe contrived to put out of sight our scientific obligations to the Mohammadans. Surely they cannot be much longer hidden. Injustice founded on religious rancour and national conceit cannot be perpetuated forever.” www.drruqaia.com/en/courses/islam_sciences.pdf (don’t get me started on Moslem fantasising about lost glories and not lifting a finger to that end, I have talked on that more than you and not just on the MV Blogsphere. That’s beyond the point I’m tying to make here)

In his infamous book The Bible The Qur’an And Science, Maurice Bucaille notes the “contempt” with which Moslems are held in certain “Christian circles”, which he had experienced when he had “ tried to start an exchange of ideas arising from a comparative analysis of Biblical and Qur’anic themes. I noted a systemic refusal, even for the purposes of simple reflection”. He writes, “ this is hardly surprising, when we consider the way so many generations in the West were instructed in the religious problems facing humanity, and the ignorance with which they were kept about anything related to Islam.

A document produced by the Office for non-Christian Affairs at the Vatican, Orientations pour un dialogue entre Chretiens et Musulmans, resulting from the second Vatican council acknowledges this. Once the document has invited the reader to clear away the “ out-dated image, inherited from the past, or distorted by prejudice and slander”, that Christians have of Islam, the Document proceeds to “ recognise the past injustices towards the Muslims for which the West with its Christian education, is to blame”.

In the end what we get is "mullahs" over ruling explicit Islamic doctrine, and rubber-stamping fatwas declaring any and forms of music (therefore by default Western) as HA'RAM. And you on the other side of the DMZ lambasting the entire school of theology and God Himself, as BS and as the nonsensical ranting of a schizophrenic who seeks to enslave all of humanity in subjugation and drudgery.

MEANWIHLE something which requires OBJECTIVE DEBATE on a social level if not on any other- be it divorced of Theology and Liberal jargon or not, is being filed as irrelevant. This is my case in point. The Culture of Music is not an entirely healthy indulgence, if one were to see it's affects beyond the personal 'release' it offers to the soul. I don't want to share my views on that just yet, but I am saying there is ample grounds for debate especially when one considers how inextricably linked drugs, lechery and an apathetic youth is to the 'culture of Music'.

Instead of saying every person has a RIGHT to listen to whatever he wants/ do what ever he wants, yada yada- I'm saying this is something we need to address esp given the state of our youth.
The ‘Maldive Concept’ of life is a unique model by any psychological or social parameters. Living cramped on a 3km glorified refugee camp; much of our youth without jobs or social security, education, employment- in political chaos & marred in drugs. Trying to sustain a nation of 3lakh people on sand mounts in the middle of the Indian Ocean is like no other. While we may have achieved ‘independence’ in 1968, it is only travel-dollars that had started to pour in the 80’s that brought us out of thatched houses.
There are calls for legalising marijuana in may parts of the world; and it is debatable whether it really stands as being more toxic than nicotine. But can our society join this march for the right to smoke whatever we want, when we consider the sorry state of our youth. Can we condone the use of marijuana when it is a doorway to other more lethal drugs? Rest assured it will not be long before marijuana is legalised in other parts of the world.

Since music is so much a part of our life, its social implications need to be subjected to debate.
My argument therefore is a Social one if not anything else, and I merely strive to see everything in a greater context that takes into account more than just a personal liking to music or a revulsion to God & Culture

I am not an 'atheist' nor am I a 'Muslim' in the conventional sense of the term you like to define me in. To me logic is everything. My tolerance includes whatever good/right you may represent, as might any "Mullah" from the other extreme.
And When I see you standing on an edifice which you proselytise as being the ideal, the more politically correct- the more respectful of Human life and His rights, lecturing the hotheads on the other extreme, I feel compelled to tell you things aren't as simple as you would like them to be.
Because I see as much wrong if not Greater wrong in the “infidels” side.

cheers

fyi, there is more than one person in this house sharing this DSL cable. hehe

y u moderating comments all of a sudden?

yeh i sent it twice by mistake..if it's all the same to you, post the first one
cheerio

Hmm. You are so obsessed with demeriting Muslims and in hating everybody and everything that an article about Music has turned into an Islamophobic hateful ranting piece of shit.

Debating whether music is good or bad? My my what is this world turning in to.

A song comes to my mind. "Imagine" from the Beatles.

Listening to ...
10 Seconds Before Sunrise ... by DJ Tiesto ...
Elements of Life ...
Good music ...

By the way...
Here is the cacophony of several so-called scholars concurring on the prohibition of Music in Islam.

Get ready to throw away your Rihanna collection. Watch.

Of course Simon would have nothing good to say about Muslims, religious scholars or Islam. He's an atheist.He has this deep spiteful urge to attack anything that has to do with Islam. It's a shame the "blogosphere" is leeched on by sensationalists like him driven by nothing but hatred of Islam.

Let us bring "blogosphere" under Islamic jurisdiction, that will solve all problems- only Sheiks and Mullahs and their approved will have access to "BOGOSPHERE". Will that do, Hassan?

Suhail, I know that you and your ilk need some narcissistic hateful ranting to ease out your pitiful sorry lonely lives. But keep it at check.

And you keep spouting out blindly "freedom of expressions" as an excuse to bash and insult. Lets see what you would do if someone puts pics of him fucking your mom & sis and call that freedom of expression. you guys are fucking hypocrites. Do you jizz on your keyboard every time you say "Mullah", "Sheik" or one of those catch phrases you guys use as inside jokes to mock Muslim Imams. What are you?. 12 year old kids. Get some loving from mom. you need that. And the middle aged fellow who manages this blog. you too.

"This blogosphere will remain as it is indefinitely."
What an egocentric jerk. You don't own all Maldivian blogs grandpa.

Some of the comments here cracks me up. LOL.

By the way i am listening to Guns n Roses at the moment. Cool band. Any one know that Rose is trying hard to get their latest album out. Yes .. another album from the full gang. Even some mahujanu has proposed to Rose that if they work on CHINESE DEMOCRACY the new album and deliver it to us all .. he will give away a present to each and every single American. Cant wait.. Cant wait. PEACE..

Hassan: Learn to read and comprehend, maybe then your arguments will make more sense. Might help brushing up on what a hypocrite is, and then perhaps buying a mirror as well.

You speak of freedom of expression as an excuse to bash and insult, and then resort to the vilest, most immature insults and name calling I have ever heard. It's sad you're "defending Islam" in ways that I'm sure most Muslims would be ashamed of.

It's called having an opinion, dude. No one is saying you shouldn't have one; except that your opinion seems to be that no one else but you should be entitled to one.

If you have something against Simon's article, explain what and why you disagree with it, instead of skimming over it and resorting to playground language. Do you seriously think anyone is going to take you seriously with that attitude? Listen to yourself, what "Muslim" would talk like that?

PS: What does "banging moms" have to do with the topic at hand at all? I assume this is some sort of fetish of yours?

I do not mind you banging my mom and sis at the same breath and distribute the videos and photos all over the world as long as they were willing partners. And it is of course better than the so called honour killing (killing your own sister for having sex with a willing partner)which are prevalent in most of the Middle Eastern countries.

Suhail. you're really f*ked up aren't ya. and honour killings is there in every country especially in Asia. It's not prevalent in Middle east though it's prevalent in south asia. What the heck is your beef with middle east anyway. The lasting hatred against each other caused by the bloodbath of the Crusades have made it's way into even the academic minds of the west. You're reading too much sensationalist garbage. Who am I kidding. Maldivians are and always have been a bunch of coy-cats. self-righteous extremists with no respect or consideration for others, if they are atheists or otherwise is what will divide this country. That won't be a good picture in a close knit society like us.

Why the fock am I replying to fools like you. let me continue flapping off to a picture of your sis. I know you won't mind. ta taa :)

…talk about the blind leading the blind. We’re all so effin’ lost in this world. So effin’ lost..