Future newspaper headline
Less than a decade from now a newspaper headline could read:
Thousands Rally in capital city Male' to Denounce Islamist School
Spine chilling stuff!
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Less than a decade from now a newspaper headline could read:
Thousands Rally in capital city Male' to Denounce Islamist School
Spine chilling stuff!
yusuf | April 17, 2007 3:34 PM | Reply
In a decade from now you might be rubbing my butt! Who knows!
s. | April 17, 2007 4:22 PM | Reply
Simon, I think you are giving too much credit to these religions groups. Underneath they are just typical Maldivians with weak swinging faith, sexually frustrated minds and looking for more money!
hama aharen | April 17, 2007 5:04 PM | Reply
R u MDP or DRP or IDP or Adaalath?
subcorpus | April 17, 2007 6:18 PM | Reply
wonder if thousand rally on the streets ...
what would the rest do ...
will they support it or not ... ?
and do we seriosuly have islamist schools here ?
or r u thinking that we would have it in a decade ... ?
maldivesheath | April 17, 2007 7:03 PM | Reply
I am thinking that the headline might read like this. Who knows!
Maldive man forced to 'marry' goat">
nass | April 17, 2007 7:14 PM | Reply
there u go again... i'm beginning to think all this is just a publicity stunt of yours... nothing more.
s. | April 17, 2007 7:59 PM | Reply
see what i mean simon. People with underlying egos of English footballers, American black rappers, and heavy metal guitarists are the soldiers of the mvmuslims. Isn't it ironic?
Number 4 | April 17, 2007 8:06 PM | Reply
s., are you talking about English footballer 'Vain Rooney', American black rapper 'Nas', and the heavy metal guitarist 'Dave Mustaine' ?
maail | April 17, 2007 9:04 PM | Reply
Number 4 : Lol...
nass | April 17, 2007 9:25 PM | Reply
hah... at least i'm not interested nor do i go writing about female genitals in my blog :)
nass | April 17, 2007 9:27 PM | Reply
n I don't see anything wrong with supporting a footballer or a music band... u christian folks are just mad cos I bring to the maldivian bloggers all the blunders n bullshit in ur edited Bible
nass | April 17, 2007 9:52 PM | Reply
n perhaps all u 'rationally thinkin' folks (including s. and no.4) can have a look at this.
jazzman | April 18, 2007 12:06 AM | Reply
The way things are going the headline will read "Population of Male' attacks 10 protesters and behead them"
q | April 18, 2007 12:18 AM | Reply
nass,
what is your problem with Christians?
q | April 18, 2007 12:26 AM | Reply
and the headline could read "MvMuslims Mullah Nass and his soldiers dressed in Manchester United football shirts and playing guitar and singing chinese heavy metal songs attack and behead 10 infidel Christian Maldivians"
nass | April 18, 2007 3:07 AM | Reply
q, no problem at all.
But i've got a problem with a bunch of guys having a blog called arabiguitar who write incorrect stuff about muslims.
BTW, I love your headline :D Sounds really cool. U forgot to mention me wearing Rooney's shirt though. Add that too.
ismailrasheed | April 18, 2007 3:08 AM | Reply
Nass,
Female genital mutilation in Maldivian society is a serious human rights and health problem that we need to confront.
But if you support and condone this practice, you will probably hide it behind a buruga...
Simon | April 18, 2007 3:31 AM | Reply
Yusuf, I can understand how you have implied the uncertainty of the future by using your butt and me and the seemingly impossible task of getting me to rub it for you as an example. But just so you know: why wait a decade? I can do it even now if you're keen. ;-)
Nass, not publicity stunt but publicly stunned. Hey wait a minute .. that gives me an idea! :-P
S, man you seem to know Nass all too much.
Nass, what does writing against christianity have to do with a bunch of guys writing incorrect stuff about Islam? Wouldn't you rather just try to post rebuttals. It's as if you are shooting in the wrong direction.
y | April 18, 2007 4:26 PM | Reply
hama aharen,
Does it matter if simon is even a member of any political party?
hamza | April 18, 2007 4:44 PM | Reply
Two things.
1. To get a thousand (let alone thousands of) people to join a rally WOULD be a real feat in Male' where apathy is the attitude du jour.
2. As the middle-class only ever participates in a protest if there are some lead roles left to cast, it would be more likely that a mob of religious zealots would gather in a decade to Simon's School of Free Thinking for some good old-fashioned lynching with a couple of confused Jennifer Latheefs at the head making political statements that the mob never heard or just plain didn't care about.
q | April 18, 2007 7:21 PM | Reply
Simon,
I also think Nass is shooting in the wrong direction. This arabiguitar fellow does not post about Christianity. I doubt they are even Christians.
nass | April 19, 2007 8:26 AM | Reply
q, can I ask why ur so worried about what I write?
nass | April 19, 2007 8:28 AM | Reply
Same goes for u, Simon. As an IT professional, ur a cool guy. But ur religious views are appalling, n I dont agree with ur religious views. So I'd appreciate it if u don't worry too much about where I'm "shooting" ;)
nass | April 19, 2007 8:31 AM | Reply
ismail rasheed,
as I sed before also, ur the one who's really interested in female genitals. If i was hiding behind a burugaa, I wouldn't be having the guts to publicly oppose your christian missionary blog, u fiend ;)
Simon | April 19, 2007 1:14 PM | Reply
Nass, I don't have the time to care or worry about your opinions.
And here's the smiley to make this comment have the appropriate "tone" of pretentious politeness: :)
yusuf | April 19, 2007 3:23 PM | Reply
Simon, nice to know that you can handle a rhetorical question! As for your offer, my butt is willing but I am NOT....
BTW, I guess some people are afraid of being beheaded! (this goes for s)
It is always better for someone to be inside a tent and pissing out, then outside the tent and pissing in...
s. | April 20, 2007 1:07 AM | Reply
Yusuf: I don't get the beheaded part. Are u saying that because Simon edited out the beheading sentence I wrote. Could you explain?
q: No one could have put it better than you.
Nas: You are a great exemplary Maldivian. Keep it up! To make it clear, none of my comments were targeted at you. It was a fictional character I created in my mind. Sorry if it offended you.
Lets hope that one day we can be a muslim in the morning, a christian in the afternoon and an atheist at night. On fridays we can all pray hukuru together, watch a football game in the afternoon and watch genitals at night.
Simon: I will not hijack any more of your posts ;) (fake politeness)
hamza | April 20, 2007 4:03 AM | Reply
Not a woman in sight and all everyone can talk about is pussy-butchering (oh wait that actually does make sense). Is it really a serious human rights issue in the Maldives? I am really asking. Because hardly anyone I know does it anymore. I mean yes, even isolated cases are worrying but I think we should keep things in their appropriate scale. Just because someone's political agenda requires that they demonize the practice of Islam in Male' doesn't make it right to distort facts.
Like Simon said, Islam's valiant defenders need to hire some serious PR representation. A lot of people like Nass misrepresent the majority of Muslims in Male' in exactly the way that people like Ismail Rasheed wants them misrepresented. Vicious cycle my friends. About time someone terminated this loop (at least I'm trying to be hip to the technobabble you spout Simon :P).
yusuf | April 21, 2007 2:27 PM | Reply
Maybe I am biased, but I am only expressing my opinion here! Nass is not representing Islam, just voicing the truth that the intellect guides...
In our modern, sophisticated culture, spirituality is in a cage. It's a taboo subject. So nobody talks about it.
The result? People don't talk to each other. They live in fear and isolation.
Some folks harbor ideas and notions (some collected by Googling) that make absolutely no sense, but because those ideas are never brought out into the light of day, they're never questioned.
Others have great wisdom, but they're afraid to share it with others! How sad.
I guess deep within we all search for the truth, just know that you're not looking for something that sounds good or cool. As with any other kind of truth, it may *not* feel good all the time. Know that you're looking for something definite, something that will by nature make some pretty bold claims.
Also, please understand that if someone tells you they possess the truth, they're not being arrogant. Fact is, they're either sadly deceived or else they're right. You can't put someone down for being deceived, and you can't fault someone for being right!
Adios
hamza | April 21, 2007 10:32 PM | Reply
A turd in any other form smells just like a tremendous pile of crap Yusuf.
Suhail | April 22, 2007 1:18 AM | Reply
s, your hopes are already fullfilled. We are Muslims in the morning, Christians in the afternoon, atheists at night. On Friday we all pray Hukuru (Juma'a) together, and watch football matches in the afternoon and watch genitalia at night.
The only pity is that WE happened to be all MALES. My only hope is to see a day WOMEN participate in our endeavours and enjoy them as much WE do.
Suhail | April 22, 2007 1:25 AM | Reply
Yusuf, third possibilty is they are trying to decieve others. And for that we can blame them. Don't we?
nass | April 22, 2007 4:00 AM | Reply
Hamza: "A lot of people like Nass misrepresent the majority of Muslims in Male' in exactly the way that people like Ismail Rasheed wants them misrepresented."
Dude, I speak for myself n what I believe in.
ismail rasheed | April 27, 2007 8:39 PM | Reply
Hamza,
One clitoris mutilated is one too many.
athena | April 29, 2007 6:08 AM | Reply
Nowhere in islam says to mutilate or otherwise do anything to female gentalia or clitoris if you prefer. Why blame a cultural practice on religion? Yes males go under circumcision, but females don't.
Ismail Rasheed - how do you relate this to islam in the first place???
hamza | April 29, 2007 3:27 PM | Reply
Athena: So, it's a cultural practice? I was having this argument with a Pakistani friend of mine. He insisted as you said that female genital mutilation (or FGM as he so conveniently put it) wasn't a requisite part of being a practicing female muslim. I'm confused but I'm inclined to believe you both.
It's just the fact that certain Islam teachers insisted on the necessity of it in order to remain clean according to the standards of the sunnah. I don't recall any Hadiths being provided on the matter (not that I'm one to give any credence to Hadiths. Just saying it out of respect for people who do believe in organized religion). I guess it might be worthwhile to clear this matter up once and for all. A little help please?
Suhail | April 29, 2007 5:35 PM | Reply
Athena, where in Islam does it say that mutilating male genitalia is a must in order to be a Muslim. Yes males go under circiumcision and females get mutilated. Yes, they do get mutilated. I knew a lady who used to mutilate routinely.
Blame culture for what you do not like and give credit to Islam for all that is good.
Slavery was there when Islam came on the horizon, so was burugha, polygamy, mutilating and circumcision.
What is from Islam and what is from culture is defined only depending on the speaker's pedestal, his motives and the era.
athena | April 30, 2007 3:37 AM | Reply
Dearest Suhail
There is no culture blaming here. I merely mentioned that FGM is a more culture related thing. and Male circumcision is religion related since its part of the "Sunnah" here is an excerpt from a Phd tehsis titled 'religion and FGM'
"Although there is no reference to circumcision at all in the Qur'an, there is a well-established tradition of male circumcision in Islam as a "sunnah" act (i.e., one following the practice of the Prophet and his companions). There is no mandate at all for female circumcision, however. Although female circumcision is not mandated, one tradition of disputed authenticity permits (but does not encourage) the removal of a minuscule segment of skin from the female prepuce, provided no harm is done. Permitting such a ritual constitutes an act of tolerance by Islamic law for pre-Islamic practices, and may be overruled by the Islamic prohibition against harmful acts. Consider, for example, that Islamic law protects a woman's right to sexual enjoyment, as demonstrated by the fact that a woman has the right to divorce on the grounds that her husband does not provide sexual satisfaction. It follows that Islamic law prohibits clitorodectomy (partial or complete) or infibulation, or any genital mutilation which impairs the woman's ability to enjoy sexual relations."
hope that clears the issue a little bit. All you have to do is a google search.
salvery was there - islam was the first religion to give some rights to the slaves.
Women attained their rights first through islam - you should read a bit of history before you go religion bashing.
Same for polygame, it already existed, islam provided some basic rules.
I dont' agree with some of the rules, and I dont' have to follow them, neither do you. But for some people, these rulese are written in stone, just becasue you and I don't believe something or a way of life, doesn't give me or you the right to bash them around without proper due... I say respect and gain respect. Live and let live..?
Suhail | April 30, 2007 3:19 PM | Reply
LIVE AND LET LIVE is a good slogan in New Zealand, but in a place like Maldives the more fitting slogan is DO OR DIE. I am not bashing Islam. Only mentioning mere facts. What rights are you talking about given to slaves and women in Islam? These rights that you are talking about were only intended to make slavery and management of women more tenable, which were alright given the circumstances and the time. But to defend those rules and customs in modern day era even in the name of tolerance is unforgivable.
Talking of googling and research. What is the point of googling when you can google into both extremes.
Living in New Zealand, in a world of almost fantasy-like, have taken you away from the harsh realities of the normal world.
Doing, as we wish and believe is no longer taken for granted in our parts of the world, at least not yet.
hamza | May 1, 2007 2:01 AM | Reply
Tsk tsk Suhail. That's crossing a line isn't it? You don't have to resort to personal jabs at someone's choice of residence to debate an issue. I think you've only taken away from the strength of your argument by doing that.
Suhail | May 1, 2007 1:36 PM | Reply
Hamza,
I do not think so, I was only stressing the importance of the matter and trying to point out that she, while enjoying all sorts of freedom for granted, is not able to see things from our perspective.
During an interview with CNN, Leonardo De Caprio, after making the film "Blood on the Stones", said that they, in America, "LIVE IN A FANTASY" ................... and have no idea what goes in the real world.
Somebody's choice of residence is not a problem at all. Contrary to general view, I believe all lands are God-given for us all, and not for a people of certain religion.
Athena, I hope you do not think of my mentioning of your residence as a racial or personal attack on you. I am not xenophobic, and I hate national borders. In my view the world has to be made into one global village, run by an organization, somewhat like UNO.
athena | May 2, 2007 3:28 AM | Reply
My dearest suhail or should it be brother suhail?
Personal attack or not, It doesn't bother me what you say about where I live or how I live, if it makes you feel better go ahead...
But one thing, you have no idea what I have to go through day in and day out as a muslim woman who chooses to wear a buruga in this country. So don't profess to know about life in New Zealand. It does have its good and the bad.FANTASY NZ is far from it. But don't go running your mouth about stuff you don't know about. Then you will be a 'fakkah roanuedhuru' wouldn't you?
(I could tell you some of my experiences, but this is neither the place nor time)
as for your parts of the world, I still belong to that part of the world and I haven't been out of touch. But it sounds like that living in Maldives has taken you out of touch with the rest of the world and world views. I don't blame you, its easy to get side tracked and narrowed vision. But the trick is to look at the big picture.
Tolerance has always been underrated.
Ever asked a muslim women, who has choices (not being forced to any particular way of thinking or lifestyle or clothes) what her rights are in islam? or have you ever read up or researched into that? or into the history and how everything came about for what reasons? I could very easily list it, but whats the use?
Hamza - dude thanks.
Suhail | May 2, 2007 9:58 PM | Reply
Athena, sorry if I hurt your feelings.
I never expected you to be a Muslim buruga clad woman. Now I understand your line of thought and sentiments that are attached with it.
I also hope that you look from the OTHERS' point of view. As you have said this is not the place and the time to debate about the buruga. If you are wearing it by your own choice, I respect it. But I deduce that the vast majority of Muslims who wear buruga do not do it by choice.
I also understand the Burga phobia in the west. Understanding do not make it right.
I do not want to be the one who knows everything. Just trying to make some sense out of this stupid world.
I do not do researches on one special subject, but I do read more than an average Maldivian. That is for sure.
athena | May 3, 2007 3:44 AM | Reply
Goog God, Suhail
Whatever gave you the idea that I was hurt? takes a whole lot more than just a few comments, attacks or whatchamanot to hurt my feelings.
The other thing is, you assume too much. expecially about people you don't know and things you don't know about.
I suggest you talk to some buruga clad women in Mal'e and see how you feel. Deduction alone doesn't cut it
Understanding doens't make it right, true. But it goes a long way doesn't it? Its a bold step towards tolerance, and acceptance. For your world dream to work, you have to be open to more ideas and ways of living than what you would feel safe in.
How do you think I live here without understanding other's point of views? For that matter, how do you think you could get along with a Maldivian??? (Ha ha,). There you go assuming again. its only makes and Ass of U and Me.
Peace out bro. If you think you understand my views and sentimentality, you are way off bro
Suhail | May 3, 2007 2:43 PM | Reply
Thanks, Athena.
True, I believe I assume too much. It is also natural in a closed society like Maldives. Where open discussions are possible, we need no assumptions.
athena | May 4, 2007 3:39 AM | Reply
atlast, we agree on SOMETHING
rilwan | June 13, 2007 12:30 AM | Reply
Anal mutilation with extra large male genitalias is a growing concern in the undemocratic,uncivilized world
clitorial piercing is getting popular in the democratic and civilized world
White and Red chequered burga - Opressed men of Saudi Royal house.
Judging by clothes, a tribe in Amazon jungle wins the award for ADVANCED HUMAN SOCIETY.
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