Random Reflexions

Although I do not agree with some of your views here, I do agree with you on the rise of radicalism and being cautious. Some of us would like to think that Maldives is becoming more religious and aware of the religious issues. But we have to stop and think about whose religious views and what sort of education we are getting. There is a big difference between Islam and its teachings and Islam and the teachings of mullahs, sheikhs or ulamas.

Respect Bro! thats the name of the game

http://insanegoddess.blogspot.com/2007/01/for-simon.html

Perhaps distorted interpretations? Whatever it is, the affect is terrible. And we all suffer.

Ullemas, so called scholar, mullahs, and other self appointed "clergy" somehow has a claim on authority of the relgion and its dealings. As with institutionalisation and empowering a person, rather than ideas, on authority, it is subject to corruption. We see the results everyday, all over the history.

Thus people will and has tried and succeeded and bending rules and ideas to fit their world and needs.

Or to be more philosophical, "it is not the spoon that bends, but your mind."

Yes Islamic extremists needs to get with the times and accept that as human beings we didn't just wake up one day and decide religion should be a personal thing. It was taught to us by experience. Educating one's children in religious norms is fine by me. I don't subscribe to organized religion but I know if I have a child, that kid would have a snowball's chance in hell of surviving in the Maldives without learning the basics of Islam.

The point is that witchhunts, crusades, religious colonialism, murdering the greatest minds of our times as apostates and other assorted idiocies should convince any rational thinker that the question of religion needs to be left at the discretion of the individual.

Athena is very right...check this out simon n all u folks..
http://www.spubs.com/sps/sad/mp3.cfm?scn=dl&LeID=129
http://www.theislamblog.com/archive/saudi-scholar-abdul-muhsin-al-ubaykans-77-anniversary-warning-against-extremists/
http://www.islaam.ca/
http://www.theislamblog.com/archive/islamic-scholar-abdul-muhsin-al-abbad-on-killing-non-muslims/
http://www.theislamblog.com/archive/shaikh-abdul-muhsin-al-ubaykans-debates-with-terrorists-leads-them-to-recant-and-repent-removing-non-muslims-from-the-arab-peninsula/
http://www.theislamblog.com/archive/category/terrorism/
hehe
The Salafis are clear from extremism and such..ok bye

Athena,
......difference between Islam and its teachings and Islam and the teaching of Mullahs, sheikhs or Ulamas.'

If the mullahs, Ulamas or Sheikhs are not the authority on the teaching of Islam, where does the Islam of today come from? And who decides what is the right Islam? We, the laymen?

What is needed today, is to depoliticize religion and free politics from religion. There seems to be no middle ground.

Salafis, Ahmediyans, Sunnis, Shiites, Wahaabis or whatever is one and the same as long as we have a common enemy. If not, we are at each other's throats.

All we need is a bunch of aliens to attack us in order to find that our humanity is the common ground that unites us all.

Hamza,

You mean like that movie Independence Day, eh?

simon,that is called stereotyping.why label all muslims with beards and radical?how about all christians wearing a cross being radical?i know...and i understand how barbaric they are and their beliefs are.i was born into a muslim family.i pray sometimes,and i like long hair and beard but not that it is vaajibu for me .i just like it...my friends like it because they imitate heavy metal musicians...So?they are fundamentalists?i am fundamentalist?Radical?once we cross into the US we must be taken to question?we must arrested?taken to the prisons where they are kept without any proof or evidence?or take us to the secret cia prisons and torture us to hell?that is barbaric just like the acts of talibans.there are people who even believe that the soul will come to the roof top of that house if you keep the dead man's favourite food on the roof..and if he is burned as he must be.and there is no name for them...these people sometimes kill and even have similar thinking as muslims towards women.domestic violence is same.they are barbaric....but i say ..they are all not the same..i have hindu friends who are good and with different thinking...but still they go to temple and have those stuff on their forehead..are they radicals?be it atheism,hinduism,islam,christianity or what ever,....i dont give a damn about it unless it harms the society.atheism and materialism have harms too.we need to be balanced in life.and we need not conclude that we are the people on the best way.and discrimination against muslims is also not good (but not as bad as that against jews...which have a nice name...antisemitism.haha...even not believing the number they give us as their dead in the holocast will be enough to accuse you).

and you know in Male' when people dont want to distinguish that,funny things also happen.a Partey with beard and wears short jeans have been noted as a haabee..and a haabee who have beard and is like you said and prays...smokes pot.and yeah...

-note:comment written half asleep.may ontain supid erros and grammer mistakes.haha

yes it is true that there are radicals in the muslim community..it is very true simon..but it is sad that every one who has a beard is labeled a radical..and we find some like you who look at the western society as an example to be followed disparage the fundamental principles of islam..and this is somethin to be seriously dealt with..
As for westerners, the claimants of civilization..they have constitutions and statutes that destroy upright moral character and permit all kinds of forbidden acts, the likes of fornication and homosexuality, as well as usury which destroys the economies of entire nations, and the eating of improperly slaughtered animals (dead meats) and pork, something that causes the loss of concern for women's values, and thus a man does not feel protective of his wife, sister, or daughter, and thus she fornicates with or intimately befriends whomever she pleases. These are some of the means which lead to ruin, and they have been prohibited in all of the prophetic messages...(im writin this believin u to be muslim ..)
and as for terrorism..and killing thn knw tht it is the westerners who engineered and manufactured bombs and all other weapons of destruction, war planes, tanks, and long-range missiles with their satanic minds that only think about transgression, animosity, oppression, attacking, tyranny, conquering entire races of people and enslaving them, spilling their blood, and usurping their natural resources. They think only about annihilating those who oppose them and stand in the way of their greedy aspirations, their oppression and spreading of hatred. All this wrapped up in the name of civilization, human rights, freedom, and justice!
All intelligent people know this about them... For their dark history is overflowing with uncivil and terrorist acts, a history recorded against them by both their enemies and allies alike...Anyone who does not know this should read about their history and their occupation of numerous nations, or at least read the history and some horrible results of their two World Wars. For example, the number of fatalities in the First World War in Europe reached "More than 10 million, and they were the elite of their nations' youth. And more than twice this numbr had incurred serious injuries disabling them for the rest of their lives." [Refer to: p.505. Recent History, Europe from the French Revolution to the Second World War]...
The number of soldiers killed in the Second World War reached: "17 million, along with another 18 million civilian fatalities - all of them killed within a period of only five and a half years. Experts have estimated that the military expenses alone reached $1,100 billion, and that losses caused by the war reached the value of $2,100 billion. Added to this are the number of entire cities destroyed, the amount of earth scorched, the agriculture that was flooded, and the factories and plantations that stopped production, not to mention the number of livestock that were destroyed or lost." [( p.448-449) The Second World War]
These are some of the landmarks of their civilization that hthey sing and boast about, and become insolent towards Islam and its Prophet with. Yet they continue intensifying every form of oppression and corruption and they go on inventing more and more weapons of destruction, annihilation, and devastation, and this – by Allah – is the utmost limit of barbaric and animalistic behavior.

( Or do you think that most of them even listen or use their intellects?
They are only like cattle, rather, even more astray than that. )[Soorah al-Furqaan 25:44]

Distortion, interpretation or misinterpretation; all are same. The aim is to get your point of view through by hook or crook.

Distortion is done physically while interpretaion is more mental and misinterpretation is psychological.

See my point in thesinningslave's (I would prefer thesinfulsoul) misinterpretation of Qur'an 25:44.

hey simon one of the mullahs has given his verdict on my comment hehe

Islam's War on Terror - A Clarification to the Media:
A 'Crystal-Clear' explanation of the stance of the Pure and clear Islam (Following the Qur'an, the Sunnah (way) of Muhammad, May Allaah Raise His Rank and Grant Him Peace upon the understanding of the Prophet's Companions and those scholars who inherited knowledge from them), A clarification of the 'Salafees', in regards to Terrorism and the methods of terror: suicide bombings, declaring Muslim states to be apostate, declaring the lives and wealth of non-Muslims to be worthless and open to murder and other sources of evil. An important lecture which reflects on the position of the Salafee scholars throughout the ages against these criminal-minded individuals and their modern-day movements. A stark contrast to some of the misinformation in the media in recent years, linking these extremist factions to 'Salafiyyah' (or as on off-shot, instead of making the documented connection between the extremist groups and their 20th century mentors such as Sayyid Qutb, Maududi, al-Banna and their theologies who paved the way for others who even considered salafee scholars as apostates!). In truth, some writers have tried to base their research on factual statements coming to the determination that 'radicalism' is an agenda foreign to traditional Islamic values; imported to Islam and the Muslims, making the real distinction between orthodox Islam and the extremists, whilst many have penned wild opinions without founding which have misled many (especially from the Muslim writers themselves). For those who wish to explore the facts and contrast the evidence, this lecture will make the affair quite clear.

Listen to this Lecture:http://www.islaam.ca/images/audio/islamswaronterror.mp3

Listen to the Q&A Session: http://www.islaam.ca/images/audio/islamswaronterrorqa.mp3

Look, sinningslave. There is no such thing as tradition islamic values. This whole throwback to the good old days nostalgia thing is just a misguided attempt to legitimate someone's intolerant political position with dreams of an El Dorado

And, on another note, how does sex between two consenting people hurt other people? How is homosexuality a social ill? What is it about two people in love (whether they be a man and a woman, two men or two women) that scares you "traditionalist" "conservative" weirdos so much? It's not like people go around fucking on your porch or sending you tapes of them doing it, is it? If Sayyid Qutb and Maudoodi decide to get it on, would you think they were less of an authority in their trade (selling small-minded bigotry that is)?

Hamza Hamza Hamza..tell me how is homosexuality a social ill? you yourself tell me..
yesterday it is said that homosexuality is a disorder..now today is it not the same people who label those who say that is a disorder to be homophobic?
Materialists and their ever changing moral values..

What is materialist about it? I fail to understand your position. Any respectable psychologist will tell you now (and its the present that matters) that homosexuality is something you're born with. It's an innate sexual preference.

hamza which school of psychology says that? The freudian?

I can't answer that question at the moment but tell me what IS your problem seriously? Do you hate gay people just because religious precepts say you should or are they really adversely affecting the society? Sociologically speaking, once everyone is accepted and given an equal standing in society it promotes harmony. What is the problem really? Explain your position to me in a worldly way without recourse to religious texts will you?

Why don't you guys take this outside? Maybe to your email accounts? :)

Haha! Didn't know we could get bounced Simon. :P 'pologies.

All apologies Simon...all apologies :)
and Hamzah it is you who mentioned the Gay thingy in the first place hehe..oh here it goes again..ok now now lets stop this , right? lemme put it as the shweeety used to end conversations "fulztop" ;)

I don't care who mentioned it first. How homosexuals are treated in our society is an issue. No matter how much we'd like to gloss over it.

Was that your attempt to patronize me? Seriously I'd like to know so I can respond.

HA HA good one. By the way Hamza, PSYCHOLOGY doesn't not say that Homosexuality is something people are born with or its an innate sexual preferance. I DO have a Masters Degree in Psychology and am currenty doing Higher studies.
You would have better luck with Human Biology or rather Genetics, which does say that.

Whether it is biology, psychology or for that matter theology, that says people are born with homosexuality, does not justify the way we treat the homosexuals.

Suhail
I know that , few of my friends are Gay. Its heartbreaking to see them suffer...

My bad Athena. I was just referring to the changing stance in psychology towards homosexuality and I guess I got carried away. So, as a fag hag I'm sure you'll understand what I'm trying to say here.

hamza - i hear you.